Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Collector » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:36 pm

I have started to take a look at the 3-D Ultra games. Some of these have installers that have problems on modern systems. 3-D Ultra Pinball 2: Creep Night's installer crashes on Windows XP and is also a 16-bit installer, so it will not even run at all on a 64-bit system. I am pleased to present the new SHP installer for 3-D Ultra Pinball 2: Creep Night. It is a full HDD installer fro CD-less play.

http://sierrahelp.com/download.php?file ... 2Setup.exe

If you have Creep Night, please give it a try and let me know how it goes for you.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Collector » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:27 pm

No interest in the 3-D Ultra Series?
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby dotkel50 » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:38 pm

I've got 3D Ultra Minigolf. No interest in the Pinball though.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Rudy » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:39 am

I have most of them, the Pinball games, Minigolf, Traintown, Cool Pool and such. Haven't yet spent much time on them though.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Collector » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:51 am

Could you give this installer a try to see if it works OK for you?
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby BBP » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:31 am

I got a Pinball game, and I'll install it as soon as I'm done with UAKM.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Rudy » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:46 am

Yep, it works. I actually used it on the UK edition of the game. Full screen, full sound, no problems. Can somebody else try it out on the US edition, otherwise i'll have to remove the shrinkwrap of my copy.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby gat » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:26 pm

I have all of the pinball games, and the 3-D minigolf game as well, and will try this out in the next few days (weekend maybe). This is great! Thank you. :)
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby gat » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:31 pm

I got a chance to track down my Creep Night disc and install it with the new installer. The shortcut created by the installer in not functional (asks for CD -- even if inserted, it does not recognize it), but when I used the "exe" file found in the UPBALL2 folder, everything seemed to play very smoothly. Thank you very much, and I look foward to your future installers.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Collector » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:52 pm

The game need an entry in the SIERRA.INI in the Windows folder of the exact CD path to the UPBALL2 subfolder. This path cannot have any long file names with spaces in it. The installer uses a small VB script to get the DOS path to this folder. If you do not have permissions to write to the Windows directory, the SIERRA.INI may not get written. The installer is set to run with elevated privileges, but I suppose that it could still be an issue. AV software might also prevent the VB script from running so the installer is unable to determine the DOS path to the installed folder.

Check to see if the SIERRA.INI in your Windows directory and if it is, do you see an entry for [UPBALL2]. What are the InstallPath= and CDPath= entries?
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby gat » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:52 pm

Here is the applicable entries in the sierra configuration file:

[UPBALL2]
InstallPath=C:\Dynamix\3DULTR~1
CDPath=C:\Dynamix\3DULTR~1\UPBALL2

If I had to guess just from looking at this, I would say that the "1" should be a "2". But I tried to edit this after reading your message, and got the same result.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Collector » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:30 pm

Unless you already had another folder in the Dynamix folder with the same first 6 characters first, the number would be 1. The number is assigned in order of creation. DOS names are limited to eight characters with a 3 character extension. Spaces are disallowed. Long file names remove these limitations, but still have a 8.3 version so as to be readable by DOS. When working within Windows since Win95, these DOS names are auto generated. It starts with the first 6 DOS legal (no spaces) characters, a tilde ("~") and a number, starting with "1" in order of creation.

If the Dynamix folder had a, say "3D Ultra Pinball 3" folder in it first and then a "3D Ultra Pinball 1" folder was later created, the Pinball 3 folder would get "C:\Dynamix\3DULTR~1" and the Pinball 1 would be assigned "C:\Dynamix\3DULTR~2". This would be followed by no more than a 3 character extension, so ".html" would become ".htm", i.e. MyPage.html becomes MYPAGE~1.HTM.

Run the diagnostic tool and attach the results here.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Rudy » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:34 pm

The executable is PINBALL2, not UPBALL2 (at least in case of the UK release)
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby Collector » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:12 pm

So is the American, but the subfolder that the game looks for that has the CD data is UPBALL2.
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Re: Any 3-D Ultra fans?

Postby gat » Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:32 am

Thanks for the explanation. Here is the diagnostic file:

3D Ultra Pinball: Creep Night

diagnostic information:

========================= System Info =========================

Windows 7 HomePremium (6.1.7601.2) 64-Bit, English
Service Pack : 1
Account type : Administrator
UAC status : On

CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 650 @ 3.20GHz, ~3191 Mhz
Memory : 4096MB RAM
Graphics Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 w/ 256MB of memory.
Screen Resolution : 1920 x 1080, 32 bit color
DirectX Version : DirectX 9.0c
CD-ROM Drive(s) : E:\


========================= Game Info =========================

Game : 3D Ultra Pinball 2
Game Version : Unknown
Game Path : C:\Dynamix\3D Ultra Pinball 2
Installer Version : 1.0
NSIS Version : v2.46
Start Menu Directory : Dynamix\3D Ultra Pinball- Creep Night
UninstallString : C:\Dynamix\3D Ultra Pinball 2\uninst.exe

Compatibility Mode:

PINBALL2.EXE: Not set


==================== Game Configuration File ====================

RESOURCE.CFG

Game configuration file not found. Please reinstall the game.


======================== Game Files List ========================

RESOURCE.CFG
README.DOC
FileList.exe
uninst.exe
DiagnosticTool.exe
PINBALL2.EXE
UPBALL2HR.ico
PINBALL2.INI
3D Ultra Pinball- Creep Night.lnk
GAMEDAT.SHP
diagnostic_log.txt
Installer License.txt
New Installer README.txt
ENGLISH\HELP\PB2.CNT
ENGLISH\HELP\PB2.HLP
ENGLISH\HELP\RECORD.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS01A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS02A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS03A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS04A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS05A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS06A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS07A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS08A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS09A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS09A2.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS10A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS10A2.WAV
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ENGLISH\HELP\SS12A.WAV
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ENGLISH\HELP\SS14A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS15A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS16A.WAV
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ENGLISH\HELP\SS18A.WAV
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ENGLISH\HELP\SS21A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS22A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS23A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS24A.WAV
ENGLISH\HELP\SS25A.WAV
ENGLISH\LARGE\OVERRIDE.DAT
ENGLISH\MEDIUM\OVERRIDE.DAT
ENGLISH\SMALL\OVERRIDE.DAT
ENGLISH\SMALL\BLAH.DAT
UPBALL2\RESOURCE.001
UPBALL2\INTRO1.AVI
UPBALL2\INTRO2.AVI
UPBALL2\FINAL2.AVI
UPBALL2\FINAL1.AVI
UPBALL2\PINBALL2.DAT
UPBALL2\PINBALL2.EXE
UPBALL2\PINBALL2.INI
UPBALL2\RESOURCE.MAP
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1000.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1001.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1002.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1003.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1004.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1005.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1006.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1007.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1008.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1009.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1010.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1011.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1012.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1013.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1014.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1015.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1016.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1017.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1018.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1019.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1020.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1021.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1022.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1023.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1024.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1025.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1026.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1027.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1028.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1029.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1030.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1031.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1032.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1033.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1034.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1035.MID
UPBALL2\MID\SX_1036.MID
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