Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

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Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby notbobsmith » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:53 pm

So I started my playthrough earlier this week. First, a problem. When I try to restore a game during Act 2, I get an Oops error and the game quits. This first time I thought it was an unlucky glitch, but it just happened again. Is there a way to fix my saved game, or are there places which are safe/unsafe to save? I did a quick search and couldn't find much help. I am running the CD version that came bundled with the King's Quest Collection (1997) on DOSBox.

For now, it's a little too early for impressions. It does seem to follow an adventure game model more closely, but they retained the clock starting with Act 2. Solid voice work for the most part. It seems to have an odd sense of humor that seems out of place. Mostly from the narrator's descriptions and the fact that the newspaper has an absurd name. A few place seem like they have unfinished artwork. Just big voids in the laundry and speakeasy that make it look incomplete. There seem to be a few inconstancies regarding Prohibition. It gets mentioned along with speakeasies, but then the museum is serving champagne and the detective mentions going out to a pub (but also talks about how much he wants to shut down the speakeasies). And I finally get Semihappy Partygoer's username! :D
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Re: Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby Semi-Happy Partygoer » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:33 am

notbobsmith wrote:So I started my playthrough earlier this week. First, a problem. When I try to restore a game during Act 2, I get an Oops error and the game quits. This first time I thought it was an unlucky glitch, but it just happened again. Is there a way to fix my saved game, or are there places which are safe/unsafe to save? I did a quick search and couldn't find much help. I am running the CD version that came bundled with the King's Quest Collection (1997) on DOSBox.

For now, it's a little too early for impressions. It does seem to follow an adventure game model more closely, but they retained the clock starting with Act 2. Solid voice work for the most part. It seems to have an odd sense of humor that seems out of place. Mostly from the narrator's descriptions and the fact that the newspaper has an absurd name. A few place seem like they have unfinished artwork. Just big voids in the laundry and speakeasy that make it look incomplete. There seem to be a few inconstancies regarding Prohibition. It gets mentioned along with speakeasies, but then the museum is serving champagne and the detective mentions going out to a pub (but also talks about how much he wants to shut down the speakeasies). And I finally get Semihappy Partygoer's username! :D


I remember getting an "Oops" error loading Act II years ago, but I have no idea what, precisely, triggers it. I also remember experiencing it once midway through a later act. I've never seen any of those messages when playing the game through ScummVM, though that may just be luck.

The black voids were obviously a stylistic choice, as I know the artwork tried to evoke the art deco style. It is a bit jarring at times, especially when they clearly cut painted elements out and replaced it with solid black.

Good catch regarding the pub and serving champagne during prohibition. That never occurred to me before. The game does have a serious story but takes a very tongue-in-cheek approach, which does take getting used to. I personally love the combination of tones - it struck a unique balance that I've never really seen replicated. Hope you have fun!

(I almost chose Fanatically Happy Party-Goer as my username, but it seemed a bit long and overenthusiastic :) )
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Re: Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby Tawmis » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:05 pm

notbobsmith wrote:So I started my playthrough earlier this week. First, a problem. When I try to restore a game during Act 2, I get an Oops error and the game quits. This first time I thought it was an unlucky glitch, but it just happened again. Is there a way to fix my saved game, or are there places which are safe/unsafe to save? I did a quick search and couldn't find much help. I am running the CD version that came bundled with the King's Quest Collection (1997) on DOSBox.


Try uploading the save game to this thread - I can see if I can duplicate the error - or move into another room - save, and upload - and see if you get the error (if I don't).

Semi-Happy Partygoer wrote:Good catch regarding the pub and serving champagne during prohibition. That never occurred to me before. The game does have a serious story but takes a very tongue-in-cheek approach, which does take getting used to. I personally love the combination of tones - it struck a unique balance that I've never really seen replicated. Hope you have fun!


Indeed good catch about the drinks... and yes, as Semi said - the humor is very tongue in cheek - and I think that's because they didn't want to make it "serious" because they were anticipating kids would be playing this (possibly with parents to help them along). I don't think Sierra games took a serious, dark look at things until Phantasmagoria ...
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Re: Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby notbobsmith » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:42 pm

Thanks for the help. I've attached my saves. I have the script code patch already installed (http://reocities.com/belzorash/).

As for the humor, I don't have a problem with it in principle. I just don't think it quite works all the time.
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Re: Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby Tawmis » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:32 pm

notbobsmith wrote:Thanks for the help. I've attached my saves. I have the script code patch already installed (http://reocities.com/belzorash/).

As for the humor, I don't have a problem with it in principle. I just don't think it quite works all the time.


I applied NewRisingSun's patch... but sadly get this error when I try to restore... which means you're playing a different VER of Laura Bow 2 than I have...
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Re: Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby notbobsmith » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:56 pm

Tawmis wrote:
notbobsmith wrote:Thanks for the help. I've attached my saves. I have the script code patch already installed (http://reocities.com/belzorash/).

As for the humor, I don't have a problem with it in principle. I just don't think it quite works all the time.


I applied NewRisingSun's patch... but sadly get this error when I try to restore... which means you're playing a different VER of Laura Bow 2 than I have...


Thanks for checking. I couldn't find the interpreter # when I click the Sierra icon. It only says version 1.1. In the meantime, it seems that I can safely save and restore in the gift shop.
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Re: Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby Collector » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:01 pm

If you used the SHP installer there is no need to apply the NRS patch. As to version, check the VERSION file.
01000010 01111001 01110100 01100101 00100000 01101101 01100101 00100001

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Re: Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby notbobsmith » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:52 pm

Collector wrote:If you used the SHP installer there is no need to apply the NRS patch. As to version, check the VERSION file.


The version is indeed 1.1. I installed the game and the patch manually. I thought I would try the installer, but it gave me an error about insufficient resources and then my virus scan quarantined it. I should be all set though, right? The installer won't give me a different version than what I already have, right?
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Re: Dagger of Amon Ra playthrough

Postby Tawmis » Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:42 am

notbobsmith wrote:then my virus scan quarantined it.


That's a false positive though. If you disable it to install the SHP installer, you should be good with installing it that way (if it does give you issues later using NRS installer).
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