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Re: Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers - A SHP Playthrough

Post by dotkel50 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:30 pm

I also have the Sierra Originals CD version. I don't have any 64924 files (I have 64929 files). I do however have those quotes below the Day splash screens.

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Re: Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers - A SHP Playthrough

Post by jujigatame » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:37 pm

Collector wrote:I tracked down the problem with the missing quotes. They go AWOL without the patch files 64924.HEP and 64924.SCR. I removed them from the installer because they cause a fatal crash in Gran's attic when you click on the clock. No easy solution here, only a clumsy workaround. You could copy them into the installed PATCHES folder, but remove them before you load the attic and replace them after.
Interesting. I wonder how one would affect the other. Do you know what those files govern in particular? Under what conditions do those files cause the clock crash? Only when running from HDD or does it also happen from the CD?

We're past the clock puzzle for now so I guess I can replace those files safely.

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Re: Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers - A SHP Playthrough

Post by Collector » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:50 pm

MusicallyInspired wrote:Hmmm maybe it's some kind of scripting error. Possible to be fixed I wonder? By someone who knows what they're doing of course lol.
I took a look at the files in a hex editor, but did not see anything obvious. I wish NRS had made the tools he made to create his patches public.
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Re: Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers - A SHP Playthrough

Post by Collector » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:53 pm

dotkel50 wrote:I also have the Sierra Originals CD version. I don't have any 64924 files (I have 64929 files). I do however have those quotes below the Day splash screens.
Curious. I have the first release and the Sierra Originals and both do not display without the files and both crash when clicking on the clock. And you don't have the subtitles turned on? Do you see them in the Patches directory on the CD?
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Post by Collector » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:56 pm

@ jujigatame. You need both files or none. They have to be used as a pair. The SCR is a script patch and the HEP is a heap (for memory management) file. I tested it with the original installer and the SHP installer using the CD for resources. It makes no difference.
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Post by dotkel50 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:59 pm

Yes they are on the cd.

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Post by Collector » Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:21 pm

And you don't have subtitles turned on?
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Post by dotkel50 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:34 pm

I do have subtitles turned on.

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Post by Collector » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:32 pm

dotkel50 wrote:I do have subtitles turned on.
Then that is why. With those files the quotes are present regardless of whether the subtitles are on or off. If you have them turned off without those two patch files the quotes will be missing.
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Post by dotkel50 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:43 pm

OK then. :lol:

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Post by Tawmis » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:31 am

I have it all installed and ready for play...!

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Re: Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers - A SHP Playthrough

Post by jujigatame » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:31 am

Collector wrote:@ jujigatame. You need both files or none. They have to be used as a pair. The SCR is a script patch and the HEP is a heap (for memory management) file. I tested it with the original installer and the SHP installer using the CD for resources. It makes no difference.
So basically what I'm experiencing is a bug in the original game that was patched in the subsequent CD releases? That's interesting.

This also means that anyone who attempts playing the patched game through DOSBox as-is will always encounter the clock crash?

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Post by Collector » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:11 pm

Correct.
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Post by AndreaDraco » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:13 am

Shortly, I will leave for the week-end. As soon as I get back, on Sunday, I'll post the Day 1 info!
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Re: Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers - A SHP Playthrough

Post by beigemore » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:20 am

I just purchased this game online. Looking forward to playing it!

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